Ratpack wrote:

 I told myself he's not stubborn and doesn't have to control everything (they are what you think, right?), but HE says he's stubborn and needs to control everything. In that case, whose subconscious wins? That's the real question.

But this is stuff you are aware of so how is it subconscious? I don't really understand subconscious, in fact it scares me because I worry it is a whole part of me I don't know and will never know.

MissMiso wrote:

I did PW in the mornings while still laying in bed and BWD at night before bed for about 2 months then I did the love spell. I only did the love spell and no other method during those 2 weeks in February. Every few days during the month of March I would do PW. Then I just stopped doing it all together because I knew he was getting the messages. Constantly doing out of fear that it's not working isn't going to make it work. Just know it is working and do things that make you happy. I realized I didn't need him to make me happy and I am having too much fun being single. I find it amusing how much he keeps begging for me back and saying most of the things I imagined him saying to me.

Yeah, I know he got the messages. The thing is can they ignore it forever? I told myself he's not stubborn and doesn't have to control everything (they are what you think, right?), but HE says he's stubborn and needs to control everything. In that case, whose subconscious wins? That's the real question.

Glovergirl wrote:

There isn't a need to do it for 30 to 60 min 2-3times a day! That's a  lot of time in the day, so do it, get it done and move on and forget about it! Spend that extra time being amazing and beautiful you. If you've not listened to any Abraham Hicks, go take a look on YouTube. Just listening will bring you into a better place. These things manifest when we least expect it. ❤

Not really. I spent 20 minutes in the morning after my 40 minutes of regular meditation. 20 minutes at night with my nighttime meditation. If the kids napped or I was sitting in the car pickup line at school, I did a few techniques taught to me by my chi healer and maybe another round of 10-20 minutes. I listen to affirmations throughout the day with earbuds in at the grocery or running errands as background noise. I believe Agnes said 25% specific someone meditation and the rest self-love. I do probably 5-6 hours a day total in meditation, affirmations, and visualizing my own stuff not including romance. I listen to a LOT of AH. The morning one every morning always. Louise Hay also. Very helpful.

I guess you kind of have to know where I was in January. Filled with self-loathing and no self-worth. I've been working very hard on loving me. I had a very nasty childhood and had to rewire my brain to understand that I should love myself. I finally do. I think that's why I gave up the PW like I did. Because I felt like I deserved better than a man who cut me off for another woman. I'm no one's second best. It all started with trying to get this man back, but it got to the point where I realized I don't need anyone to love me because I love myself enough. Other people's love is now a bonus and not a requirement. It's very liberating.

MissMiso wrote:

My ex dumped me 7 months ago and started dating another woman. I did PW, BWD, and the love spell. Eventually I let go and let myself be happy and didn't think about what he was doing. Well guess what...he very recently is begging for me back, calling and texting everyday. He tells me he loves me and misses me...and now I don't even want him back! It works, it really does but not always when we expect or want it to.

Did you continue with the techniques or did you stop all of it? I did it consistently every day for a total of 30-60 minutes (2-3 times a day) for 4 months or so. I didn't keep track. One day I just stopped. Gave up about a month ago. I know it will stuck in his subconscious forever, but I'm always curious to know when people gave up and moved on if they stopped doing the RS too. Occasionally I'll do a quick PW or whispering technique, but I would say maybe twice a week for 5 minutes or so and then I move along.

Missy wrote:

Don't forget that RS is a skill. It takes time for you to be good at it and it takes time for your situation because it is a process.
You did this less that half year, there are many succes stories that took a year to manifest

Oh I know it's a skill, but I mastered it quickly. I've done a lot more with RS (Lanie's PW specifically) than trying to manifest him back. I've seen how quickly it works with things I was way more attached to than this (making people go away who hurt people I love has been very successful with the technique). I think that's why this is bugging me. I've always been a manifester and this one ain't panning out like I want.

Thanks, everyone. I haven't totally lost hope. I've stopped the the techniques and have been working on myself exclusively. I feel a lot better. It just kind of sucks. I guess I'm not too worried. He was only with me 3-4 months before he was talking marriage and kids. That's how long they've been together.

I guess I needed a little reassurance. Obviously I'm still a work in progress. Maybe I'll pick it back up when it's fun again. Now I'm worried I'd be doing it out of desperation and I'm not about that life.

Hey Ratpack,

Maybe there is something he needs to learn in his relationship with her before he could really be with you, chances are there are things you need to learn before you'd be ready, at the end of the day the LOA teaches us that our outer world is simply a reflection of our inner world do some soul searching and make yourself happy first and know that if he's really meant to be with you, he'll find his way back to you when the time is right. 

Wishing him well, and moving on is letting go.

He may be engaged, but we don't always know what's lurking around the corner. You and I both know the intensity of the connection that is made, it works. Don't doubt that because it doesn't look at this time the way you think it should.

Stay true to yourself and keep your vibe high, love you.

Much love. ❤