We berate ourselves by thinking about gaining respect of men by bothering what  "they" will think and try and please them and that is how men see us, something to  be disrespected because we ourselves think we can be disrespected by them for doing what even they do and WE need.

See men as someone who don't respect your needs and consider women as objects who should do what "they think" is right no  matter what men themselves do and that is the kind of men you will attract and men around you will become. 
​No one can disrespect and hurt us till we allow them to. Right? Well refuse to put up with such men as they deserve no place in a woman's  life.

See men as people who respect women, women's needs and actually respect women for pleasing herself and gladly want to satisfy them and that is the kind of men you will attract and men around you will become.

Shawneegirl1980 wrote:

Marz wrote:

Shawneegirl1980 wrote:

Marz...pleeeease don't do it.  Don't go there with the slinging insults with her.

I'm becoming fed up. Calling me "disgusting" was unwarranted. If people come at my head, feelings will be hurt. I've been disrespected and accused of enough bullshit in this discussion as is.

No she doesn't...however her calling u disgusting doesn't define you. Those of us who know where you are coming from know that aren't disgusting...

A woman takes pride in herself and being abstinent and disease free and she gets called disgusting because she's concerned about with some of these questionable women are preaching to younger girls. that's also rich.

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Em wrote:

Shawneegirl1980 wrote:

Em wrote:

Yep, sorry to disappoint but that's the truth. Sorry you happen to be so presumptuous. Mmkay?

Em...she does kinda have a point...u went into how many men u slept with and why...and for what?  If u aren't out here opening your legs to every one..why does anything she says offend you?  If what u say is true...then why argue about it with someone u wouldn't know if they passed u on the street?!

Because women are being shamed for CHOOSING WHAT THE HELL THEY WANT TO DO WITH THEIR OWN BODIES IN A FORUM BASED SOLELY AROUND EMPOWERING WOMEN.

I have no problem with talking about how many (or how few) men I have slept with. And why? Because I was just clearing up her presumption that I must have slept with the entire world and have some kind of disease because I fully support women who choose to do whatever they like with their bodies.

Again...nobody is being shamed here though...she said for Collie ro follow her heart...

Em wrote:

Marz wrote:

Em wrote:

Then maybe you need to word things better. Please reiterate what you meant by that statement?

It's not a matter of me wording things better as much is you not being as intelligent as I am. That's not an insult, that's just the truth. As a one time courtesy, I will explain to you what I meant, although I've already done it in the discussion.
For the women that advocate free sex with whomever and whenever, what will they tell their daughters when they ask them about sex? Will they get the same spread your legs and have fun mentality? If so, what will their fathers have to say about that? Oh never mind, they aren't real men because they don't cherish promiscuous women 😂😂😂
Welp.

Woah, my time machine worked and I'm now back in the 1800's!

I would expect you to reply to that with a non-humorous, remedial joke instead of actually answering that question. Of course she wouldn't, because the truth is, no one in their right minds would tell their daughter to go out and give their vagina away and to have fun with it.

Aphrodite11 wrote:

We berate ourselves by thinking about gaining respect of men by bothering what  "they" will think and try and please them and that is how men see us, something to  be disrespected because we ourselves think we can be disrespected by them for doing what even they do and WE need.

See men as someone who don't respect your needs and consider women as objects who should do what "they think" is right no  matter what men themselves do and that is the kind of men you will attract and men around you will become. 
​No one can disrespect and hurt us till we allow them to. Right? Well refuse to put up with such men as they deserve no place in a woman's  life.

See men as people who respect women, women's needs and actually respect women for pleasing herself and gladly want to satisfy them and that is the kind of men you will attract and men around you will become.

My decision to be abstinent has nothing to do with men think of me. I could screw 50 guys right now and lie about it.
I have made the choice to remain celibate and abstinent until I am in a loving relationship. I don't view this as a sacrifice, i'm very happy with my choice because sex is sacred and spiritual and not something that I take lightly.
This discussion went completely downhill because some of you have an issue with my advice and my way of life, but that's not my problem, that's your own.
You're not going to bully people into thinking what you want them to think. Opening up my legs for men for fun will never be a way of life for me.