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11/15/2016 9:57 pm  #21


Re: Being with a guy that isn't your goal

With all due respect, Marz. Empowering women has nothing to do with telling them what you think they should/shouldn't do or what is wrong/right for them to do. It has everything to do with supporting them and uplifting them. Each woman has the right to do whatever they want with their mind and body. Sure, you have the right to express your opinion against what someone is doing. However, doing so when it's negative is the opposite of empowering another woman.

Lanie's main goal is for all women to empower other women. And though she may not condone casual sex, I certainly don't think she'd condone a woman interrupting someone's thread to scold them for discussing the topic. It doesn't matter what Lanie wrote in her book, until Lanie or Oasis make rules for what topics can/cannot be discussed here, anything is on the table.

 

11/15/2016 10:09 pm  #22


Re: Being with a guy that isn't your goal

Marz wrote:

NewJackSweetie wrote:

In the end, you have to follow your heart and do what works for you, but I can totally see where Marz is coming from and I do agree with Marz's posts.

I can't speak for everyone, but I've tried to have the casual sex/no strings attached situation and did not work for me at all. I caught feelings when that wasn't even my intention.

Sex is very deep and very powerful. When a man enters into a woman, his spirit gets inside of her. That's very heavy. It MIGHT be possible to send the universe mixed signals because there's a chance that you may end up developing feelings for the man.

Exactly. And the evidence is all over the forum. There's an entire group of women who are sleeping with men with no strings - the men are disappearing and now they're feeling hopeless and confused.
I'm wondering how many women actually read Lanie's books and took her writings seriously?
I never thought I would see the day where women encourage other women to sleep with men freely and shun those who encourage women to cherish themselves and wait for a man who loves and respects them enough to give them a commitment. Perilous times, indeed.
When Trump absolves Roe vs Wade, that'll be a tragedy for some. 

Very well said Marz. If we are going to follow the teachings, then we should follow ALL of the teachings.

It's not about missing out on the fun of having casual sex. It's about treating our bodies like a temple. That means that we should be mindful of who we allow to worship in our sacred temples. There are too many stories about women getting their hearts broken, contracting diseases and not being certain of who the father of their child might be. That's enough to want to make me keep my legs closed.

This culture of "hooking up" and casual sex has gotten out of control. Even male motivational speakers such as Tony Gaskins (who promotes LOA as well) strongly advises that we should practice abstinence because it is very beneficial in the long run.


My Manifestation is on Fleek!!  
 

11/15/2016 10:15 pm  #23


Re: Being with a guy that isn't your goal

Sam wrote:

With all due respect, Marz. Empowering women has nothing to do with telling them what you think they should/shouldn't do or what is wrong/right for them to do. It has everything to do with supporting them and uplifting them. Each woman has the right to do whatever they want with their mind and body. Sure, you have the right to express your opinion against what someone is doing. However, doing so when it's negative is the opposite of empowering another woman.

Lanie's main goal is for all women to empower other women. And though she may not condone casual sex, I certainly don't think she'd condone a woman interrupting someone's thread to scold them for discussing the topic. It doesn't matter what Lanie wrote in her book, until Lanie or Oasis make rules for what topics can/cannot be discussed here, anything is on the table.

Kindly highlight where I scolded, interrupted and attempted to make any rules for what could or couldn't be discussed. If you're coming to me "with all due respect" at least know what you're talking about. Otherwise, you could be mistaken for inciting drama instead of assisting the OP with her issues.
To reiterate - the OP specifically asked what "she should or shouldn't do" regarding her situation, I stated my own opinions (inspired by my upbringing and Lanie's literature) and because others were bothered by my statements - I'm now accused of guilt tripping, interrupting, scolding and creating rules. That's rich.
But now it doesn't matter what Lanie wrote in her book lol mmkay then.
Yea you all don't want me as a moderator because shit would change real quick. The tone of this group is nothing like it used to be. I am concerned of young women who would actually come here and heed some of this questionable and possibly dangerous advice.

Last edited by Marz (11/16/2016 9:29 am)

 

11/15/2016 10:21 pm  #24


Re: Being with a guy that isn't your goal

Marz wrote:

Sam wrote:

With all due respect, Marz. Empowering women has nothing to do with telling them what you think they should/shouldn't do or what is wrong/right for them to do. It has everything to do with supporting them and uplifting them. Each woman has the right to do whatever they want with their mind and body. Sure, you have the right to express your opinion against what someone is doing. However, doing so when it's negative is the opposite of empowering another woman.

Lanie's main goal is for all women to empower other women. And though she may not condone casual sex, I certainly don't think she'd condone a woman interrupting someone's thread to scold them for discussing the topic. It doesn't matter what Lanie wrote in her book, until Lanie or Oasis make rules for what topics can/cannot be discussed here, anything is on the table.

Kindly highlight where I scolded, interrupted and attempted to make any rules for what could or couldn't be discussed. If you're coming to me "with all due respect" at least know what you're talking about. Otherwise, you could be mistaken for inciting drama instead of assisting the OP with her issues.
But now it doesn't matter what Lanie wrote in her book lol mmkay then.
Yea you all don't want me as a moderator because shit would change real quick. The tone of this group is nothing like it used to be. I am concerned of young women who would actually come here and heed some of this concerning advice that's being given out.

 

 

11/15/2016 10:33 pm  #25


Re: Being with a guy that isn't your goal

NewJackSweetie wrote:

Marz wrote:

NewJackSweetie wrote:

In the end, you have to follow your heart and do what works for you, but I can totally see where Marz is coming from and I do agree with Marz's posts.

I can't speak for everyone, but I've tried to have the casual sex/no strings attached situation and did not work for me at all. I caught feelings when that wasn't even my intention.

Sex is very deep and very powerful. When a man enters into a woman, his spirit gets inside of her. That's very heavy. It MIGHT be possible to send the universe mixed signals because there's a chance that you may end up developing feelings for the man.

Exactly. And the evidence is all over the forum. There's an entire group of women who are sleeping with men with no strings - the men are disappearing and now they're feeling hopeless and confused.
I'm wondering how many women actually read Lanie's books and took her writings seriously?
I never thought I would see the day where women encourage other women to sleep with men freely and shun those who encourage women to cherish themselves and wait for a man who loves and respects them enough to give them a commitment. Perilous times, indeed.
When Trump absolves Roe vs Wade, that'll be a tragedy for some. 

Very well said Marz. If we are going to follow the teachings, then we should follow ALL of the teachings.

It's not about missing out on the fun of having casual sex. It's about treating our bodies like a temple. That means that we should be mindful of who we allow to worship in our sacred temples. There are too many stories about women getting their hearts broken, contracting diseases and not being certain of who the father of their child might be. That's enough to want to make me keep my legs closed.

This culture of "hooking up" and casual sex has gotten out of control. Even male motivational speakers such as Tony Gaskins (who promotes LOA as well) strongly advises that we should practice abstinence because it is very beneficial in the long run.

Yea, it's the Amber Rose thing and the encouragement of promiscuity amongst women and equating it to feminism where "a woman can do exactly what a man can do".
Yet, women are biologically more susceptible to STDs and (as I discussed earlier in the forum), women release oxytocin during sex - this is why so many women have the tendency fall in love with a man that's all wrong for them.

But, to get back to the original point because far too much digressing has happened - Collie, you read these posts and listen to your own heart. Do what you feel is right. Only you know what the true, right thing is to do in your heart.
 

Last edited by Marz (11/15/2016 10:41 pm)

 

11/15/2016 10:44 pm  #26


Re: Being with a guy that isn't your goal

Marz wrote:

Yea, it's the Amber Rose thing and the encouragement of promiscuity amongst women and equating it to feminism where "a woman can do exactly what a man can do".
Yet, women are biologically more susceptible to STDs and (as I discussed earlier in the forum), women release oxytocin during sex - this is why so many women have the tendency fall in love with a man that's all wrong for them.
 

So you think this all started with Amber Rose? How old are you if you dont mind me asking?

 

11/15/2016 10:53 pm  #27


Re: Being with a guy that isn't your goal

Sushi wrote:

Marz wrote:

Yea, it's the Amber Rose thing and the encouragement of promiscuity amongst women and equating it to feminism where "a woman can do exactly what a man can do".
Yet, women are biologically more susceptible to STDs and (as I discussed earlier in the forum), women release oxytocin during sex - this is why so many women have the tendency fall in love with a man that's all wrong for them.
 

So you think this all started with Amber Rose? How old are you if you dont mind me asking?

I'm done with this portion of the conversation. I've returned to the original point of helping the OP with advice - and yea, that's a personal question. I mind you asking.
Thanks.
 

 

11/16/2016 3:11 am  #28


Re: Being with a guy that isn't your goal

Oh dear ladies, it's too early in the morning for me to process this whole thread.

You can for the most part discuss as you wish. Although the sea sponge did make me feel a bit queasy 😁 

Just be respectful of each other's views.

The reality is if your  question is should I have sex? Then you really shouldn't be because clearly you are confused.

Last edited by Oasiscalm (11/16/2016 3:19 am)

 

11/16/2016 7:07 am  #29


Re: Being with a guy that isn't your goal

Oasiscalm wrote:

Oh dear ladies, it's too early in the morning for me to process this whole thread.

You can for the most part discuss as you wish. Although the sea sponge did make me feel a bit queasy 😁

Just be respectful of each other's views.

The reality is if your question is should I have sex? Then you really shouldn't be because clearly you are confused.

Which is why I told her to think about this long and hard. After so many years of celibacy, the last thing you should do is jump into this in such haste.
And OC, you know I've gotten into a total of zero conflicts here, but I will not allow anyone to defame my advice. Any and all advice I give to these girls comes from a mature, and heartfelt place. I would never push a woman I cared about to have sex with some guy simply because she feels urges. 
This isn't the first time women in this group have popped up out of the blue and discussed their "dissatisfaction" with some of my posts, which I find to be rude and unwarranted. If you don't like my opinions - don't read my posts. Not only has this group taken a more negative tone, it's also beginning to take a catty, passive aggressive one, which I don't work very well with.

 

Last edited by Marz (11/16/2016 7:12 am)

 

11/16/2016 11:06 am  #30


Re: Being with a guy that isn't your goal

Okay...I'm confused...what exactly did Marz say that was wrong again???  I don't understand what the debate is about.  To the original poster...if you want my HONEST opinion?  I don't think you should have casual sex.  Five years of celibacy is a LONG time and an accomplishment to only be broken for a hook up.  However...do whatever you feel is best.

 

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