Tess wrote:

Can someone please please tell me has anyone had this happen after starting the techniques that your POI got into a relationship with someone else, but you STILL ended up with them later on?  Posted elsewhere on the forum but no answers yet so I am posting in the question section and really hope somebody sees and replies. 

Here's what I have to say about that - if he has moved into another relationship, then you projected that into your reality by something you are saying or doing within. When I tell people that, they get pissed at me, so sorry. Reality is just an illusion and your beliefs that you have of any situation/person out-picture into your reality. SO, whatever you are believing RIGHT NOW, will project into your reality at some point. There can be no outer change until you first change within. Everything is you pushed out. You can do as many techniques as you want, but if you are not impressing the belief that he is with you onto your sc mind, it won't change.

@hermeshorse.
Yeah I think you may be right about the smaller presence.  I AM intrigued by the 3 of them though! :-) 

LOL at "which of your men" Well, yes, there ARE a few guys who are interested in a relationship with me or at least a couple but I'm not into them like at all.

I know what you mean about the FWB but I don't know how long it's gonna take to manifest the him or better so... 
There's another guy who's open to that (in the meantime!) like we ARE attracted to each other we DO get on and we're both single but there's a few things about him that make me NOT want to be in a proper relationship with him.  I don't mean red flags in the sense that he'd be nasty to me or anything like that.  But I wouldn't mind a fling with him while I wait?  But impatience is even playing a part THERE!  I need to be ok with the WHEN things happen and chill! 

Back to my crush who has starting seeing someone.  
 I've made it VERY clear to him (SINCE he said about the relationship not before) that I am ONLY wanting to meet (should things NOT work out, cos we've discussed this - basically I got in touch again and he said he's started seeing someone but we both agree that IF things don't work out then yes we will try to meet although of course I've wished him well and much love and that it DOES.  HOWEVER I made it VERY clear that I am looking for LOVE from him and not just sex.  He's confessed to having lovey dovey feelings for me in the past and being very open to a relationship with me. 

I DO need to be more patient, I know. 

Ah, yes!  I have seen the whispering technique and the rub out might be worth a go!  Cos it's NOT like someone who is in an established happy relationship type of situation it's only JUST started too.  

I want a relationship - VERY much.  But only with someone in which there's strong mutual attraction and connection, not with just anyone.  That's what I want.  

Anyway THANK YOU!!!  Really appreciate your reply and Piper's too! 


 

Last edited by Tess (5/21/2018 3:42 pm)

Help! It's not going how I hoped it would.
I successfully manifested my POI. He initiated contact, and we spent 4 weeks messaging each other several times a day. I asked him if he was interested in meeting up and he said yes - all good. He arranged for us to meet up before he went away on a two week training course for work.
He chose something for us to do, which didn't actually work out, and we ended up going for a breakfast/brunch at a pub. He seemed to be very into me.  At this stage I am thinking "this PW/BWD really works, he likes me, and it looks like he wants to see me again".
However, sadly, this didn't last long. On the way back to dropping me off, we drove past a furniture shop. He waxed lyrical about how he wants to purchase some nice British oak furniture to match the items he already has, and then he launched in to a slightly bitter rant about the stuff his ex-wife had taken when they divorced.
For a split second a look of abject pain crossed his face, as if someone had stabbed him with a hundred knives, and he suddenly turned cold on me. When he dropped me off, he didn't look at me, or talk to me. But, when he got home he sent me a message thanking me for the lovely morning we had spent together.
He went off on his course and his attitude to me became extremely cold and indifferent towards me. Last week I had had enough, and asked him outright if he still wanted to talk with me/meet up with me. He replied "yes" but only as friends, as he was not looking to get into a relationship with anyone yet. I agreed to this, but his demeanor to me remained cold and very off hand.
That was a week ago. I decided last Thursday to not message him anymore as his attitude to me was quite hurtful, as if he was trying to push me away. Then on Saturday I thought I would read Lanie's PW again.
I have to admit, I hadn't practiced either of the techniques since he originally contacted me. I decided there and then to have a PW session, and envisioned him saying that he couldn't get me off his mind, that he missed chatting to me, he wanted to see me again, and he wanted me as part of his life. Then I let go, and continued with my day.
When I got home, I discovered that he had sent me 7 messages during the afternoon, about 3 hours after I had PWd him. As well as a photo of the view he had whilst doing his homework studies, so that I could see what he could see.  I was actually blown away, as this is the first time I had witnessed PW in action so fast. 
I continued to practice PW, having him say the same things, and he has initiated every conversation that we have had for the last 5 days, which he had never done before.
This was all going well, yesterday he initiated our conversation. And then I had massive attack of poor self confidence/self worth/self esteem/self image. I could feel the negativity oozing out of me, and a dark cloud descend over me. I tried to do PW but felt flat, and whenever I thought of him a big barrier came up. I am pretty certain this is from me not him.
I am under an immense amount of pressure and stress right now as I am moving house, and didn't have enough notice to arrange for a professional removal firm, so I am having to move myself, which I am having major anxiety attacks over.
I haven't heard from him since yesterday morning. Now whenever I think of him I feel ugly and undesirable, as if he can't stand the thought of me. I believe this is coming from me, as I feel very needy at the moment, I have no one to help me move, and I know he probably wouldn't help if he was in the area. So I think I have decided that he finds me undesirable, and ugly, and undeserving of even his friendship and attention, let alone love and affection.
I know this is self destructive, and might turn into a self predicting prophecy if I am not careful.
Does anyone have any ideas on what I can do to work on myself? I am pretty certain it's me that is blocking stuff, as the PW was having almost instantaneous results up until my melt down, and I didn't feel any resistance from him at all, he was very open to me during PW.

Hi everyone. I just want to say that I have had insane success with pussy whip and burn with desire. My guy who didn't even know I existed became obsessed with me within a week of started the techniques.  Anyway I have a question for lanie, can you make your target say too many things during pussy whip ?. All the things I make him say are about the same thing, loving me, but I wandered if it's better to focus on only a couple of sentences during one session?.  I'd love to hear anyone's thoughts on that

I find it exhausting to constantly dictate the entire process. Why can’t I just be in a loving relationship? With equal give and take.
I use pw only for rough times. And I will visualize him in front of me saying loving things and I say it as well. Sometimes I have us saying the same thing together. Just one time and then we hug or something. 😁