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chelseagurl wrote:
Such an angry post there mariaaa, why blame Lanie for your misery? Do you blame the soda company or crisps manufacturer if you purchase them and later gain weight? Do you blame your ex boyfriend or POI for your sadness? Do you blame the company you work for if you are not happy with your work?
We all make choices in life, when we choose happiness, it comes to us; we allow love, it comes to us..if we choose to blame people, well it comes back to us with bitterness.
Reading your post might affect other readers, I am not affected by it because I chose not to be pulled into your negativity. Just like you in the beginning, novice readers are looking for a spark of hope, a light at the end of the tunnel, that pulls them out of their sadness. This forum has done that for me and I will be forever grateful to this forum and Lanie. Please, have some respect for the readers, to Lanie and most especially to yourself, free yourself from the angst, its like a poison to your spirit. Recognize self love and I'm very sure in a few days or weeks you'll feel happy. All the best to you and I only wish you happiness.
I agree with you here, well stated in response to the above post.
Everyone has their own journey. It is difficult to read the previous negative post, not because I'm impacted by it but because I also see how others might be easily steered onto the negativity path.
My experience with these methods has been nothing but positive. I recieved a very heartfelt apology from a man I knew that was pretty darn close to what I've heard in my meditation. I have had an ex show back up. My POI and I are recently back in contact. Our connection is different, it is more open and more honest. I have no doubt that it is the work that I've been doing. The PW and the BWD. But also, the meditation I have done for myself. I'm of the opinion that what you put out to the world comes back to you magnified. No one can convince anyone of anything, I've seen enough manifesting and done enough work with energy before I started on this journey that I have no doubt it works. Everytime.
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chelseagurl wrote:
Such an angry post there mariaaa, why blame Lanie for your misery? Do you blame the soda company or crisps manufacturer if you purchase them and later gain weight? Do you blame your ex boyfriend or POI for your sadness? Do you blame the company you work for if you are not happy with your work?
We all make choices in life, when we choose happiness, it comes to us; we allow love, it comes to us..if we choose to blame people, well it comes back to us with bitterness.
Reading your post might affect other readers, I am not affected by it because I chose not to be pulled into your negativity. Just like you in the beginning, novice readers are looking for a spark of hope, a light at the end of the tunnel, that pulls them out of their sadness. This forum has done that for me and I will be forever grateful to this forum and Lanie. Please, have some respect for the readers, to Lanie and most especially to yourself, free yourself from the angst, its like a poison to your spirit. Recognize self love and I'm very sure in a few days or weeks you'll feel happy. All the best to you and I only wish you happiness.
Thank you, and well said. I also posted something to mariaaa earlier on another thread. Maybe we need a ranting thread where people can vent, although, I think that would go against everything that we are taught through loa and such. When someone hijacks every thread with anger it affects everyone who reads it that may be just learning how to control their thoughts and who are in a bad state of mind. This forum is here to uplift others and help answer questions about the technique and lifestyle we create by using it, not to post your rants on every thread available.
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Your response just proved my point, chelseagurl! I have every right to be disappointed if Lanie advertises "works every time" (her own words) which amounts to bait and switch. She should change the terminology because false hope is what she's selling.
Your example of chips and soda is irrelevant since those manufacturers do not advertise their products has health food, and there are regulations in place to make sure they don't.
Reading my honest post...I hope it affects other readers. Not always are newbies looking for a spark of hope. Sometimes they are looking for truthful reviews and experiences. Contrarily, it would be disrespectful and a disservice to sugar-coat my experience. If anything, I would say it's important to add some balance to posters whose comments are biased because they know the author of the books also posts here.
Beyond that, your condescension is disregarded and has no impact. Becoming disillusioned and commenting about it is actually quite liberating. I am *happy* to have the veil lifted and see reality, because the only thing I am letting go of is...false hope
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Sorry your experience is so negative.
How though do you explain the numerous 'successes' that others have experienced? I don't know the author personally, I post only on account of my own experience. I am pretty sure others also don't know Lanie and purely share their experiences to support and uplift others here.
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mariaaa wrote:
Your response just proved my point, chelseagurl! I have every right to be disappointed if Lanie advertises "works every time" (her own words) which amounts to bait and switch. She should change the terminology because false hope is what she's selling.
Your example of chips and soda is irrelevant since those manufacturers do not advertise their products has health food, and there are regulations in place to make sure they don't.
Reading my honest post...I hope it affects other readers. Not always are newbies looking for a spark of hope. Sometimes they are looking for truthful reviews and experiences. Contrarily, it would be disrespectful and a disservice to sugar-coat my experience. If anything, I would say it's important to add some balance to posters whose comments are biased because they know the author of the books also posts here.
Beyond that, your condescension is disregarded and has no impact. Becoming disillusioned and commenting about it is actually quite liberating. I am *happy* to have the veil lifted and see reality, because the only thing I am letting go of is...false hope
Okay mariaaa, let me change the soda and chips, what about those diet food and supplementary that promises weight loss? It takes effort and persistence to achieve weight loss and not only rely on the supplements. Same as RS like the technique, it takes faith, belief, actions and positivity. Anyway, I know that at this point you are not ready to listen and prefers to argue, and I respect that. All the best to you
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Piper, that's not just an exaggeration. It's simply not true to say "every" thread. Can we be factual here, folks? I posted comments this evening on threads which seemed pertinent and of interest to me.
Regarding numerous successes: I believe there are variables that count toward degree of response from POI, such as if there is on-going contact and communication; if there is a pre-existing connection with the person, and of course, something that has been pointed out before, the will of the POI.
So, there isn't any viable way to prove that if a POI returns and resumes a relationship, even if he says he was lonely, miserable and missed you, that he was positively affected by remote suggestions. All of the aforementioned variables increase the odds that he will reconnect with you even without meditation, visualization, spells, or prayers. And, the lonely part can be quite convincing because men typically need the validation of a woman to feel worthy.
Contrarily, if he has moved on, written you off, has no desire for contact or communication; or if he was never truly emotionally or psychologically invested in his relationship with you to begin with, or it was brief and fleeting exposure; and if he became involved with another woman and is satisfied in his new relationship, all of these things will lessen the likelihood of his return.
Of course, this is not a hard and fast rule and there are exceptions, however I would remain skeptical of any woman's testimony of the marvelous effects of RS if she regained communication and relations with her POI, and attested to none of the former variables being present.
I have had previous positive results with remote influence, but only when I was in an active relationship with someone and their will to engage with me came into play.
For my most recent endeavor, however, there wasn't any communication or visual exposure; we didn't have any contact outside of his work; he became actively involved with another woman, and with whom he worked, I might add, where he saw and communicated with her daily; and therefore hasn't experienced that loneliness that often accompanies detachment.
With this recipe for out of sight...out of mind, it's not surprising my results were null and void.
I am freely expressing my point of view based on in depth and time-consuming experience. I have been listening and absorbing all of the persuasions as to the potency of RS, which is not an iron-clad method of manifestation, nor provides consistent results and shouldn't be advertised as such.
My preference is to report my experience honestly. Is that okay with you, chelseagurl?
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mariaaa wrote:
Piper, that's not just an exaggeration. It's simply not true to say "every" thread. Can we be factual here, folks? I posted comments this evening on threads which seemed pertinent and of interest to me.
Regarding numerous successes: I believe there are variables that count toward degree of response from POI, such as if there is on-going contact and communication; if there is a pre-existing connection with the person, and of course, something that has been pointed out before, the will of the POI.
So, there isn't any viable way to prove that if a POI returns and resumes a relationship, even if he says he was lonely, miserable and missed you, that he was positively affected by remote suggestions. All of the aforementioned variables increase the odds that he will reconnect with you even without meditation, visualization, spells, or prayers. And, the lonely part can be quite convincing because men typically need the validation of a woman to feel worthy.
Contrarily, if he has moved on, written you off, has no desire for contact or communication; or if he was never truly emotionally or psychologically invested in his relationship with you to begin with, or it was brief and fleeting exposure; and if he became involved with another woman and is satisfied in his new relationship, all of these things will lessen the likelihood of his return.
Of course, this is not a hard and fast rule and there are exceptions, however I would remain skeptical of any woman's testimony of the marvelous effects of RS if she regained communication and relations with her POI, and attested to none of the former variables being present.
I have had previous positive results with remote influence, but only when I was in an active relationship with someone and their will to engage with me came into play.
For my most recent endeavor, however, there wasn't any communication or visual exposure; we didn't have any contact outside of his work; he became actively involved with another woman, and with whom he worked, I might add, where he saw and communicated with her daily; and therefore hasn't experienced that loneliness that often accompanies detachment.
With this recipe for out of sight...out of mind, it's not surprising my results were null and void.
I am freely expressing my point of view based on in depth and time-consuming experience. I have been listening and absorbing all of the persuasions as to the potency of RS, which is not an iron-clad method of manifestation, nor provides consistent results and shouldn't be advertised as such.
My preference is to report my experience honestly. Is that okay with you, chelseagurl?
Oh dear god, please take my comment literally when I'm pretty sure you knew exactly what I was saying. Truth is, you posted on more than one thread with pretty much the same thing and same intent. I have zero issues with someone posting their experience, but you should speak to Lanie directly in order for her to help you with whatever issues you're having. If you are unhappy with results, then you can stop doing it and see what Lanie can do for you refund-wise. Not sure why you feel the need to be rude to people here. If you were having issues, you could have asked someone. Good luck to you.
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The pumpkin calling the squash "orange". You said, "please take my comment literally". You should try harder not to be so confusing.
That's just it. If this forum doesn't welcome honest opinions and when someone speaks frankly in disagreement with your opinions, you call that rude. Yet, your remarks (along with others) of disgust and disdain, such as, "Oh dear god," are designed to be rude.
So, rather than attacking someone for expressing their opinions and labeling them "rude" while you're projecting and committing the very offense to which you claim to have an objection, try accepting that not everyone is going to agree with you and that you aren't as persuasive as you may think.
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mariaaa wrote:
Your response just proved my point, chelseagurl! I have every right to be disappointed if Lanie advertises "works every time" (her own words) which amounts to bait and switch. She should change the terminology because false hope is what she's selling.
Your example of chips and soda is irrelevant since those manufacturers do not advertise their products has health food, and there are regulations in place to make sure they don't.
Reading my honest post...I hope it affects other readers. Not always are newbies looking for a spark of hope. Sometimes they are looking for truthful reviews and experiences. Contrarily, it would be disrespectful and a disservice to sugar-coat my experience. If anything, I would say it's important to add some balance to posters whose comments are biased because they know the author of the books also posts here.
Beyond that, your condescension is disregarded and has no impact. Becoming disillusioned and commenting about it is actually quite liberating. I am *happy* to have the veil lifted and see reality, because the only thing I am letting go of is...false hope
I'm going to take a moment to reply to your negative posts. I will not change my statements in my books and they are not intended to "bait and switch" NOR do they. I have no control over what your thoughts and actions are nor do I have any control or knowledge of what his are. What I do know is that if your relationship was all that great you would still be together. So you're going into something that has already not worked out at least once!
My techniques are designed to plant a seed, contact and send emotions to your POI. That is exactly what they do! But they are only seeds! In order for these seeds to grow in a positive manner you must nurture them. What do I mean by nurture? Stop blaming others, stop being negative and stop doubting. In order to manifest anything, I will repeat ANYTHING, you must get into an alpha state and have desire and belief to make the relationship grow and work.
You sent me an email stating basically the same thing that you have said on my forum. I am not to blame for your lack of manifestation. You are in control of your life and your relationship. You are trying to put something back together that was already broken! I sent you an email stating that my fiancé dated plenty of other women while we were apart. He wasn't sitting around pining for me but he could not get me out of his heart or off his mind. Why? Because I never doubted what I was sending. He received it, he felt it, he stayed attached to me and in love with me, and it was all because I "nurtured the seed". And we were not in touch at all for one year! One entire year!
So if you want to give up go ahead and give up! If you believe because he's dating someone else that you don't have a chance then make that a reality and walk away. But don't blame me or anyone else for failure.
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mariaaa wrote:
Piper, that's not just an exaggeration. It's simply not true to say "every" thread. Can we be factual here, folks? I posted comments this evening on threads which seemed pertinent and of interest to me.
Regarding numerous successes: I believe there are variables that count toward degree of response from POI, such as if there is on-going contact and communication; if there is a pre-existing connection with the person, and of course, something that has been pointed out before, the will of the POI.
So, there isn't any viable way to prove that if a POI returns and resumes a relationship, even if he says he was lonely, miserable and missed you, that he was positively affected by remote suggestions. All of the aforementioned variables increase the odds that he will reconnect with you even without meditation, visualization, spells, or prayers. And, the lonely part can be quite convincing because men typically need the validation of a woman to feel worthy.
Contrarily, if he has moved on, written you off, has no desire for contact or communication; or if he was never truly emotionally or psychologically invested in his relationship with you to begin with, or it was brief and fleeting exposure; and if he became involved with another woman and is satisfied in his new relationship, all of these things will lessen the likelihood of his return.
Of course, this is not a hard and fast rule and there are exceptions, however I would remain skeptical of any woman's testimony of the marvelous effects of RS if she regained communication and relations with her POI, and attested to none of the former variables being present.
You post makes perfect sense and I thank you for being brave enough to live in your truth and express it.